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Tuesday, March 3, 2009

The Great Babysitter Dilemma

Back in the Stone Ages, when I was a babysitter, the going rate was $1 an hour. I took the liberty of upping it to $1.50 when I was about 15. In retrospect, given that the minimum wage was just over $4 an hour at that time, I probably could have gone nuts and asked for $2 or even $3. But I felt like I was almost being greedy at $1.50.

Even at those exploitative rates, I brought home $150-$200 a month in the summers. That is a lot of babysitting.

I assumed at the time that part of the gig was tidying up messes. It's not like I broke out the vacuum or anything. But if I were sitting for a family whose kids were asleep by 8:00, and they were going to pay me to be there till they got home at midnight, I always felt a wee bit guilty taking their money for four hours of reading my latest favorite novel. So, I'd do a quick sweep through the house and pick up all the toys we'd played with before the kids went to bed, and I'd do the dishes. Basically, when they came home, the house was tidy.

Fast forward to today. The only paid babysitters we've ever used have been women who work at the kids' daycare. One or two, early on, decided they were too busy with school in the evenings, or whatever, to babysit on top of their full-time jobs. One we never had back because despite my careful directions about bedtime and routines, she let our 18 month old stay up and watch tv until 10pm because, in her words, "I kept asking him if he wanted to go to bed, and he kept saying no."

So now we're down to one sitter. She is lovely, nearly old enough to be my mother, wonderful with the kids. She can distract and soothe, drive them to the hospital if there's an emergency, and will read them each five books before bed if they want. She's been a daycare professional for over a decade. She charges $10 an hour, which seems fair given that this is her profession. (Honestly, the first time she sat for us, she just said she charged "Whatever," and I paid her closer to $12 an hour because I rounded up to the nearest bill I had in my wallet, and she got in my face the next time she came and told me point-blank that I "paid way too much last time." So I settled on $10 an hour.)

Here's the thing, though: when we come home at night, the dirty dishes from which she fed the kids dinner are still on the table. The toys are all over the floor. She has done a wonderful job with the kids themselves, but once they are asleep, she is all about HGTV. I find it mildly irksome, given that (for example) this past Saturday, my children were only awake for 45 minutes of the 4 hours of sitting for which we paid her. But I do realize that we are paying her for her time, that I have never explicitly said that I expect her to tidy up after the kids, and that at this point, it's probably impossible to say anything, given that she's been taking care of my children for five years now.

But I have a question to piggy-back on this dilemma.

We have a neighbor girl who is a young teenager. I have been thinking for a while now that I would like to hire her occasionally to play with the kids while I do yard work or chores, or lock myself in my office to grade some papers. Her mother has told me in no uncertain terms that the girl should be paid $5 an hour, as she's very young. My hope is that if she does a bit of playing with the kids, so that they get comfortable with her, we can move on to hiring her for short evenings so that Husband and I can go out for dinner in our town. With her mother literally across the street, I'd be perfectly comfortable hiring the girl to put the kids down to bed and stay with them while we are sipping a glass of wine and enjoying a bite of pasta a mile away.

But I think that I need to be very clear with her about my expectations with her. I don't expect her to clean or be a housekeeper. I don't assume she will multi-task while amusing the children and fold the laundry. BUT, I think that if she comes over for a few hours in the evenings, it's not unreasonable to ask her to do a quick tidy of the things she and the kids actively used while she was here. NOT the whole house. But put the costumes back in the costume box if they spread them all around. That sort of thing.

The question: is this a reasonable expectation? What do you expect from your sitters? Do you expect different things if they are going to be there for hours at night while the children are asleep, as opposed to only while they are awake? Did you tell them this up front? Do you have any other advice for me? (Or do you need to tell me to stop living in the Stone Ages, already? If so, go ahead. I can take it.)

19 comments:

Ashlie- Mommycosm said...

YES, you have every right to expect that a sitter will pick up after themselves, especially when they have "free" time with sleeping kids.

Set your expectations up front. The current sitter might be a bit tricky, but start off every new one on the right foot.

Laurie said...

My last teen babysitter did exactly that - without being asked. I wouldn't care if they did it personally, but I do think if you ask her to tidy up it's perfectly acceptable. And definitely to be clear with your wishes right up front. Good luck!

Steph said...

Ooooh. This one is tough. Our babysitters have all just cleaned up without any prompting from us. But shoot, we've always hired our friends' kids, so those girls knew they better pick up a little or their mamas would be on them like stink on poop. :grin:

Maybe you could talk to the girl's mom to ask her what SHE thinks is reasonable?

MomZombie said...

My oldest daughter, 15, does some babysitting for my friends. She charges $5 an hour to watch the kids, put them to bed, maybe dole out a snack. I've advised her that any good babysitter cleans up whatever messes are made during the babysitting time period. If the house is a mess when she arrives, she should ignore that. She's not the housekeeper. But by all means don't leave the house messier than it was when the parents left.
When I hire a sitter for my youngest, I make the clean-up request this way: "Make sure (child's name) does her part to clean up any messes before she goes to bed."

Rachel said...

I totally agree the sitter should tidy up, especially if the kids are in bed. When I babysat as a teenager, I cared for the kids, cooked for them and cleaned up the dishes, toys, whatever else we did while I was there. I agree, let the new girl know your expectations beforehand and it shouldn't be a problem. Sounds like a perfect situation with her mom right next door.

That would really annoy me about that older lady. She should know better. It annoys me when my MIL comes over to babysit and doesn't tidy up, and she's FREE! (Then again, I am easily annoyed.)

LceeL said...

The thing about a contract for services is that it is just that - a contract between two parties - and the result of a negotiation. Now - given that the other party is a minor child, the parent or other responsible adult should be part of the process on the potential sitter's behalf - so that she doesn't feel intimidated during the process and so that she doesn't agree to perform beyond her abilities.

All that said - set your expectations during the negotiations, in the presence of said adult, so there are no surprises.

Chocolate on my Cranium said...

I just thought it was common courtesy to clean up after the kids you are babysitting. It's what I've taught my own daughters to do. It would be a great benefit to the young lady to sit down with her and her mother and go over expectations before she starts. She'd develop some good habits that will make her a a desireable babysitter for others too.

calicobebop said...

I always cleaned up as well - just part of the work ethic I was raised with. As I've never once hired a sitter for my child (due to a mild case of paranoia) I can offer no advice. However, if you get some great tips I'd be happy to read about them on a future post!

Domestic Goddess (In Training) said...

Uh yeah! I want my kids to pick up before bed, so I expect my sitter to help a mama out. I thought all sitters did that.

Jo said...

I agree with MomZombie's wording of make sure (your childs name) helps clean up before bed. That makes it a little easier to ask. But in addition you should set expectations up front. And your are not unreasonable. You aren't asking them to be a maid - just pick up what they messed up - which is a common courtesy. You don't go to your job and leave a mess in the cafeteria or library. Why should they?
Good Post Question!

Mrs F with 4 said...

I have an AMAZING teenager (a BOY, get THAT!) who lives opposite us, who comes for three hours after school, once a week to play with the children. And he babysits in the evening at weekends. And waters my garden and cleans the pool while we're away. And no, you can't have his number.

When he first started, about 18 months ago, I was doing jobs around the house while they played, and when it was time for him to leave, I went out and just said right out, OK guys, time to clean up before X leaves! And maybe he's just quick on the uptake, or well-trained by his mother, but he absolutely cleans up (with the children) e v e r y time.

Boy, did I every get lucky. And no, you STILL can't have his number!

Heather of the EO said...

I don't think it's too much to ask at all. It kind of blows my mind that someone babysitting wouldn't just do a little tidying up. Not that it's their job, but when I was growing up and babysitting all my summers away, I did that stuff because it didn't cross my mind not to. Not tooting my horn, just sayin'

So yeah, I think it's OK to tell her up front. If you make it clear that you don't mean she has to clean your house, I think it would be totally fine.

MommyTime said...

MomZombie and Jo, I think you're exactly right about the wording -- and, in fact, now that my kids are nearly-3, and 5, I think I could perhaps even drop a hint to my current sitter by saying something like that. At the very least, it might get the toys tidied up before I come home.

I also really like your suggestion, Steph, about being sure to mention it to the girl's mother too, to be sure that we're all on the same page about expectations.

Lceel, the idea that there is an implicit contract here is a good point, and one I'll be sure to keep in mind.

Many thanks to all of you for helping me feel like I'm not a freak for assuming that this was part of the job. I will certainly be sure to be very clear with a new sitter that I hope there will be a brief clean up time before the kids go to bed, and that I DON'T expect that to mean that she has to clean up messes that were here before she arrived.

And, Rachel, you crack me up! I love that someone else besides me gets annoyed by things like this (even though I know I should just chill, since I've not explicitly said anything about it to my current sitter).

ms. mep said...

I am a slob, but as a teen babysitter, even I knew to clean up. I think my mom would have been amazed to see how much cleaning I did in other people's houses in those days!

My issue is just the reverse. We have a regular two-day-a-week sitter who cleans up after herself and the kids, plus sweeps and swiffers my floor each day she is there (not because I asked her to swiffer, but because she likes to do so or perhaps because she is appalled at my floors). I am thrilled by this.

However, when this sitter stays with our kids on a weekend evening (I get the baby to bed and all she has to do is spend an hour or so playing with my toddler and then getting him to bed), she does no cleaning up or swiffering. No big deal, I guess, but kind of odd . . .

Ree said...

I put myself through college babysitting - and yes, I cleaned up. I don't think it's unfair or taking advantage to ask this girl to pick up what the kids played with. After all, I'm assuming she got the stuff out to entertain, right?

the mama bird diaries said...

I expect my sitters to clean up the KIDS toys and do the KIDS dishes and fold the KIDS laundry. I want to walk into a neat apartment. There is no excuse for leaving the place a mess... especially when they've been sitting on their arse. Never to late to clarify. You can be very polite about it. "If you don't mind, I'd love if you did the kids dishes, if you have a moment..." That should do it.

anymommy said...

Sitters really are hard. I have just one that I really love and trust and it's way more important to me that she respects my rules and enforces them kindly than whether she cleans up. But, she almost always does clean up anything she and the kids have played with and if she's there past bedtime, she always does the kids' dishes! I don't think those are unreasonable expectations.

This has always been the big pro of dogs for me. Absolutely no laws about leaving them sleeping alone in the house ;-)

momma2731 said...

Many moons ago, when I started sitting, my parents gave me a golden rule to follow: "Always leave the house in the same condition it was when you arrived- if not better." So, no it is NOT unreasonable to ask for a cleanup after the kids go to bed. Not at all!

I recently had a sitter for my then 15 month old. His dinner was leftovers, which I had already cut up and set aside in the fridge, but of course I had left some of the sitter's fav. foods for her dinner. When we arrived home (4 hours after he had gone to bed) HER dinner dishes were still sitting out!! Including the dirty baking sheet that I had to soak and then scrub after she left!
She is a sweet girl who just adores my little guy, but that was a deal breaker for me.

Melanie said...

Man, I have this same issue with my sitter. Ten years ago I WAS the babysitter, and I always cleaned up. Now, my sitter makes 10-12 an hour and doesn't clean at all. It's frustrating. It could possibly mean, however, that it's time for a new sitter, one with whom I clearly set out my expectations before hiring.

 

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